Episode 89: JFK Jr: The Fatal Voyage Podcast, Part 1

In 2020, the Fatal Voyage: The Death of JFK Jr. podcast was released. It has mixed reviews on various outlets. After watching Dark Legacy II, I wanted to see if this research offers us anything of merit on what happened to JFK Jr and why.

This covers Episodes 1-6.

➡️ As with JFK Sr, it seems that some people who comment on the legacy of Jr are determined to do so with a lot of left-handed compliments and smear campaigns. How in the hell, for example, is a high school IQ test of JFK Sr's relevant to the death of his son more than 60 years later? 😒

➡️ Was JFK Jr going to reopen the investigation into JFK Sr's murder?

➡️ Is there a Kennedy family curse?

➡️ Did Frank Church hold back his real findings of C!A corruption in order to save the country?

➡️ Was JFK Jr a reckless playboy who took unnecessary chances? Was he using NYC as his own personal acting set? (And the word "reckless" is used all the time in this series.)

➡️ Did JFK Jr send a dëąth threat letter to Senator Biden in 1994? Really?  Did the alleged "Kennedy spin machine" cover it up to protect Jr?


Links:

https://open.spotify.com/show/18QM2BiJT6KsNr9pNpCCrZ

https://www.buzzsprout.com/2289560/14548032

https://www.kennedysandking.com/john-f-kennedy-articles/the-posthumous-assassination-of-john-f-kennedy

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Transcript

Transcription by Otter.ai.  Please forgive any typos!

Sara Causey discusses the "Fatal Voyage" podcast, which explores the death of JFK Jr. The podcast claims the crash was a cover-up, not an accident. Episodes 1-6 delve into JFK Sr.'s alleged ruthless ambition, illegal activities, and influence on his sons. They discuss JFK Jr.'s early life, his relationship with Carolyn Bessette, and his reckless behavior. The podcast also covers conspiracy theories about JFK Sr.'s assassination, the Kennedy family's alleged cover-ups, and a death threat letter allegedly sent by JFK Jr. to Joe Biden. The podcast narrative seems to paint JFK Jr. as arrogant and reckless, suggesting a pattern of Kennedy family misdeeds and cover-ups.

SUMMARY KEYWORDS

JFK Jr, plane crash, Kennedy family, Dark Legacy, conspiracy theories, Camelot myth, Joe Kennedy Sr, mafia involvement, Vietnam War, Chappaquiddick incident, Kennedy curse, media attention, death threat letter, Foxtrot Bravo India, kidnapping plot.

Welcome to con-sara-cy theories. Are you ready to ask questions you shouldn't and find information you're not supposed to know? Well, you're in the right place. Here is your host, Sara Causey.

Hello, hello, and thanks for tuning in. In tonight's episode, I will be talking about the podcast fatal voyage, the death of JFK Jr, after watching John hankey's film Dark Legacy two, I was snooping around online, and I just happened upon this podcast, and I wanted to see if whatever research they present offers anything new, anything of merit, as to what actually happened to JFK Jr, and why choose your frosty beverage of choice. And we will saddle up and take this ride. The fatal voyage podcast has 12 episodes, and I think in order to keep my episodes from getting too unwieldy, I will split it in half. So tonight's episode will cover episodes one through six of the fatal voyage podcast. According to its own write up, it purports to be one fateful night John F Kennedy Jr boarded a private plane with his wife and sister in law, flying to his cousin's wedding, only they never made. It was the plane crash that led to JFK Jr's funeral, a mere accident or something far more sinister, swept under the rug by Camelot, like so many of their other tragedies, this next installment in the fatal voyage series explores the privileged life and sudden death of John F Kennedy Jr, discover the dark side of the Kennedys from scandals and cover ups to JFK Jr's rocky marriage with Carolyn Bessette, even an elaborate kidnapping plot that forced him into hiding fatal voyage, the death of JFK Jr is The only podcast telling the full story with Episode One, even though we're told that this is about JFK Jr, and how he had to live in the shadow of his parents. Episode One starts off talking about JFK Sr, some reporter named Leon Wagner gives us the standard line that Joe Kennedy SR was ruthless and power mad and would stop at nothing to be sure that one of his sons became president of the United States. We also hear that he was illegally bootlegging during Prohibition. Now, RFK Jr refuted that in his interview with Vlad TV. I recorded a podcast episode about that back in 2024 I'll drop a link if you want to check it out, because it was interesting to me to hear RFK Jr responding to some of these long, persistent rumors. Leon tells us that Joe was in with Al Capone and made a fortune off of committing fraud in the stock market. So he becomes a millionaire easily because he's doing it through crime. Author Doug. Weed also tells us that Joe senior made a lot of cash using the stock market, and his tactics were illegal. Weed says that FDR wanted Joe senior to ferret out corruption because he knew all the tricks of how to commit fraud. Leon says winning is the only thing that matters to Joe and Rose Kennedy, and even if you have to risk your life, you had better do it. If you came in second place, you had to eat dinner alone and be banished from the family table. Leon tells us that Joe went to the mafia to help Jack win in the 1960 election. This is also another rumor that RFK Jr pushes back against in that interview with Vlad TV, the idea that this whole family is just ruthless and power mad, and Joe goes to the mob to help Jack win, because it just wouldn't have happened any other way. You also see James di Eugenio pushing back against this in his article, the posthumous pop pop of John F Kennedy, because he's like, why would they have gone to the mafia to put them over in West Virginia. Were they trying to get mobsters to round up the squirrel vote or what? Like it? When you really start to dissect this rumor, it doesn't even make any sense. Doug weed also tells us that the mafia was instrumental in getting JFK elected, and he tells us that this is just simply mainstream, accepted history. Now, Leon tells us that Jackie thought Joe senior was rude, but that she wanted money and the trappings of aristocracy. She knew that Jack was a philanderer, but she married him so she could have the money in the position. I'll be honest with you, of all the different mud that gets slung in the general direction of the Kennedy family. I'm a little bit more inclined to believe that Jackie knew what she was getting into, and that she was interested in going along for the ride. If you're saddling up with somebody that is planning to be president and you're the wifey, that means you get to be first. Lady, all the money, all the trappings, all the power, all the fame, you get to enjoy that as well. Doug weed tells us that Jackie helped to create the Camelot myth as part of the Kennedy spin machine. The Press eats it up and goes with it. Leon tells us that Jackie was good at putting on the show, and even the White House redecorating process was part of this. I'll butt in and say, I don't necessarily disagree there. I do believe that it was Jackie that invented the Camelot myth, and like the White House redecorating and making sure that the media was always a part of their shtick. I mean, whether you're talking about the campaign or you're talking about the actual presidency. I've said before, it's like a three legged stool. It's like you have Jack Jackie and the media, I think that they were pretty darn savvy in understanding the importance of having the beautiful photographs and the intriguing TV specials and all of that you have Doug and Leon telling us that Jackie wants the kids to get away from the White House, and she wants them to grow up outside the limelight. Jack on the other hand, because he is a shrewd political bastard, like his father, will use any possible photo op with the kids, not because he loves them, but because he wants to use them for his own political gain and to bolster his own popularity. Sara we're told even that he will wake the children up and force them to be on camera, whether they want to do it or not. It certainly strikes me that this episode is centered much less on JFK Jr's early childhood and much more on painting JFK senior as a piece of trash, even though it starts off with, Oh, hey, JFK is an icon. His speeches were brilliant. He represented hope and a new era for the 1960s it rapidly devolves into Jack Kennedy was a piece of shit. Leon tells us that Joe senior rules the roost and that Joe Jr is told that Kennedy's Don't cry, you must suppress emotions. We're also told that this is is passed down to JFK Jr, so like even, I guess this is something that bleeds into the life of Caroline and John and Grandpa says that Kennedys Don't cry and you better suppress your emotions. We're also told that JFK Jr is not allowed to cry at his dad's own funeral, because that's not what Joe senior would have wanted. So look, we're getting the mainstream line here that Joe senior and JFK senior were a couple of rich, ambitious pricks who didn't care about anybody's emotions, not even their own children or grandchildren.

John Hanke from Dark Legacy and Dark Legacy two is quoted in this podcast. He tells us that the Pentagon and the Charlie India Alpha wanted Johnson to know they were involved, so that Johnson would know that they owned him. They wanted the Vietnam War. Kennedy did not author. John Kerner says that the Charlie India Alpha had motive to kill JFK. He wanted peace in Vietnam and in Laos, and he could have disrupted the drug trade there. Leon tells us there's a theory that JFK was killed by the mafia, and there's plenty of evidence and motive to do it. The mafia feels betrayed by Kennedy and wants him gone. Leon believes it's all plausible and convincing. Personally, I think Jim Garrison and others have debunked this. I mean, all you have to do is what Jim Garrison did. Could the mafia have covered up the whole thing? Could they have influenced the media? Could they have hijacked the autopsy? Could they have altered the photos? I mean, the more that you dig into it was the mafia, the more in my mind, you come to the conclusion of they may have been involved at a lower level, but they didn't plan the whole thing by themselves. Doug weed talks about J Edgar Hoover saying that the public must never know the truth about JFK s murder. He theorizes that because the US was trying to murder Castro, so the KGB decided to murder Kennedy, and the KGB recruited Oswald to do it. I've written in my notes this theory is even worse than Leon telling us that the mob did it. The narrator of the podcast at least acknowledges that there was an extensive cover up. Cyril wecht tells us Kennedy's brain was missing, and still is missing. Sections were not taken of Kennedy's brain, and as wecht argues, it was not done because they didn't want the truth. It would have shown the official story of Lee Harvey Oswald acting alone from the Texas School Book Depository to have been false. John Kerner says, When JFK Jr is 17 years old, he starts doing his own research. He hired his own investigator in the 1980s he wanted to figure out who actually killed his father. Had he become. A prominent politician, he'd have had more resources to find out what happened. Bobby had hired an investigator, but he died, and John Jr was able to get an investigation going, and he intended to reopen an investigation, which allegedly showed that the murder was an inside job in March of 1999 George magazine publishes Oliver Stone's article about conspiracy theories. As a side note, I plan to do a whole episode separate and apart about Oliver Stone's article. We go now to episode two. JFK Jr is born into the dynasty of Camelot, but does he also inherit the Kennedy curse like JFK senior? We wonder what might have been with JFK Jr, had he lived longer. John Hanke says there are 10 affidavits in the Warren Commission documents of witnesses in Dealey Plaza who say the limousine came to a stop in front of the grassy knoll. Did the service stop the limo to wait for the kill shot in 1979 the HSCA concludes the JFK murder was the result of a conspiracy. Doug weed says I received a call from a lady whose father had worked for Frank Church. This woman's father claims that church said our country could not have survived if they had known the truth of our investigation into the Charlie India alpha in 1968 Bobby Kennedy is killed. Leon Wagner tells us that Jackie leaned heavily on Bobby after JFK was killed, then suddenly Bobby was killed. This brings up the rumor that they were so tight, it was said they were sleeping together. But to me, does that matter, especially in a podcast that's supposed to be about the murder or accidental death to be determined of JFK Jr, does it matter if Bobby and Jackie were knocking boots with one another, grieving and consoling one another, or whatever after Jack's passing? How in the hell is that relevant to a podcast about the plane crash of JFK, Jr, it's like people just want to get sex stories in anywhere near the Kennedys, that it's possible to get in some story about one of them using their penis. Sara wecht was a consultant on RFK autopsy. Thomas Noguchi was concerned that the authorities might try to take Bobby's body away, as they did with Jack's body in the cover up for RFK, we're told that Sirhan. Sirhan shot him and acted alone. Sirhan could not have fired the fatal shot because it came from behind Bobby, and Sirhan was in front. Wecht believes sirhan's own attorney, Grant Cooper, did not bring in the right experts to defend him properly. Ted becomes the last son standing of Joe senior. Ted himself was almost killed in a 1964 plane crash in 1969 the Chappaquiddick incident happens. The accident was not reported, and Ted says he was not under the influence. He pleaded guilty to leaving the scene of the accident. No autopsy was performed on Mary Jo capecney. Was there another cover up? If so, was this one orchestrated by the Kennedys themselves. I have written in my personal notes, some believe this was a cover up by the Kennedys, and others believe the Charlie India Alpha was involved. There are stories, for example, of E Howard Hunt and Frank Sturgis allegedly being seen in the area before the Chappaquiddick incident. I intend to perform more research on this and record an episode or two later. Bobby's sons have a run of bad luck. Joseph crashed his jeep and became addicted to painkillers. He was found dead in 1984 RFK Jr used heroin. Michael died in 1991 in Aspen, Colorado. William Kennedy Smith, a cousin, was arrested and charged with rape. He was later acquitted. We're told by Leon Wagner that John Jr avoided drugs and didn't like to even be around any type of drug use. There's been an average of an accidental death in the Kennedy family once every two years. Leon believes they may have brought this upon themselves through their own risky behaviors. Doug weed tells us that John Jr was reckless and fearless. He'd take chances in sports and other people would say, you're going to kill yourself. Leon says the kids were wild and fun to be around. They enjoyed showing off. Leon claims some of the cousins would flash the tourists around the Kennedy compound. Leon says John Jr would drink in the middle of the night and skinny dip in the ocean, and the cops would not intervene. The cops told Leon, allegedly that Jean would drive with the kids tied to her car on their bicycles going 15 or 20 miles per hour, and this could have caused a fatality. Leon believes the Kennedy curse comes from dangerous behavior and not from any bad luck. They couldn't contain themselves. They did crazy things and got away with it. It's not surprising some of them would die. The narrator compares the Kennedys to the mafia, saying they. Had an understood code of silence about misdeeds. Doug weed tells us that the Kennedys would have a friend author make a puff piece book so that whatever damning book was about to come out, the softball job from the friend could be rushed into print. According to weed, 10s of 1000s of presidential papers were released at one time to dilute the information and confuse journalists. They went to historian Robert Dallek and gave him a head start to write a good book about JFK. Kennedy was a poor student, especially in math and science. He was good at English and literature so he could sound smart, but he wasn't. He had a 119 IQ in high school, so he was basically a B student, but the Kennedy family wants us to think that JFK senior was a genius. I've written in my personal notes, if the Kennedys really did push Dalek to write a puff piece, they didn't get their money's worth. Also, I believe what weed is referencing here is from Thomas Reeves hit piece, a question of character which makes JFK sound like someone who is simultaneously manipulative and conniving yet rather stupid. It's Reeves who reports Jack's IQ in high school is 119 if I had been in and out of hospitals as much as Jack had been, and someone IQ tested me in the middle of a health crisis at 16 or 17 years old? I'm not sure I would have done any better. So it's like, how is this relevant to a podcast series about the plane crash of JFK Jr in the 1990s some IQ test of JFK seniors from the 1930s has no bearing on any of this. All I can figure is that they are trying to tell us that John SR was a moron, so John Jr was also a moron, ergo, no wonder he had a plane crash.

I mean, well, Sara, let's says he's not sure why the family would play into the hands of anyone who was involved in the pop pops or the death of Mary. Jo capecney. Leon Wagner says JFK Jr was highly energetic, and at the age of nine, he was at an airport and started dancing maniacally while Jackie ignored him. This was happening around his step grandfather's funeral, and Leon wondered if John Jr was triggered in some way. I've written yet again in my notes. How is this relevant to anything? Is the point here to show that he was maniacal and caused his own plane crash? What the fuck the kid was nine? Give me a break. Weed argues that the pressure was on John Jr because John SR had been president, and he was murdered to boot, when John's plane crashed in 1999 was it the Kennedy curse? All over again? That's our segue into Episode Three. Did JFK Jr have a death wish when he took his plane that fateful night? The graveyard spiral causes a plane to court screw downward. It's believed that JFK Jr was inexperienced and caused the graveyard spiral to get worse. We're also told that Carolyn was argumentative and screaming at him, which made a bad situation worse at the snap of a finger hitting the water at that speed, everybody is dead. The media frenzy began when JFK Jr's plane was reported missing. Kyle Bailey had watched John Jr take off from Essex. He sees police cars and the media going nuts at the airport. He claims two girls were giggling about seeing JFK Jr, and they waved at him and tried to get him to say hello. His car had been towed, and there allegedly was a ransom note on it. Kyle says he thinks this was the work of the two girls leaving a love note with their phone numbers on it. Now, in my notes, I've written, why would a love note from two girls with the hots for JFK Jr be considered a ransom note? This is odd. It's pervy, but it's not the same thing as a ransom note. On July 19, fragments of the plane are found in 1999 Jeff guzhetti, or Jeff guzzetti, I should say, was charged with piecing together what happened. Jeff says there was a lot of scrutiny at the time, the wreckage was kept away from the media. We did our best to make sure there were no leaks of photos. The bodies were recovered five days later, Junior's body was partially autopsied, no one else's was the three were cremated, and the next morning, their ashes were scattered at sea. The speed of this raised many eyebrows. John Kerner says closed casket funeral. Body was cremated. Cremation is unusual for a Catholic family. Cyril wecht, a cremation would preclude any future examinations. There was a lingering sense of lost potential of what might have been. Andy Tillett, what was JFK Jr planning to do? He failed the bar exam twice. He. Dabbled in acting. He traveled Doug weed. JFK Jr wanted to be an actor. He was a heartthrob, but Jackie Kennedy put her foot down and said she did not want him to be an actor. Before her death, she sent him a note saying she believed he had a place in history. Andy Tillett. JFK Jr had a laundry list of babes he dated, but Jackie did not approve. Leon says that JFK Jr felt he had been born again when Jackie died, Jackie drove a wedge between John Jr and his celebrity babes. John and Carolyn began dating in 1994 in 96 they got married, and she left her job at Calvin Klein. She had worked hard in the fashion industry, and the two of them were happy. Junior launches George magazine in 1995 the debut issue was Cindy Crawford as George Washington in a bra. I wasn't a reader of George, but I will say that JFK SR loved his job as a reporter. So I agree with the commentators in this podcast that JFK Jr was living out a sort of dream that senior had. He really did that brief period of time when he was a journalist, kind of a roving reporter. He did really like that job. The happiness was not to last, because the circulation dwindled within a couple of years, the magazine was at a loss. It started out hot, but it fizzled out by 1999 the magazine was in free fall. Junior was trying to secure investors, and his marriage was in trouble. Leon says Carolyn was beautiful and elegant, but was also struggling with drug use. Junior was angry, and they would have public fights. Their fights caused her issues to spiral. She had an affair with an underwear model, Michael Bergen Andy Tillett, when a high profile couple is breaking up, it becomes front page news. By mid 99 the marriage was in very bad shape. JFK Jr had moved out and was living in a hotel trying to save his marriage. He decides to fly to Martha's Vineyard from New Jersey for Rory Kennedy's wedding. Kyle Bailey says the day was hazy, hot and humid. There was reduced visibility from the smog. Junior was planning to fly, no excuse me, he was planning to fly, but had opted not to due to weather and reduced visibility. Junior had planned to fly before six. He had experience with visual flight rules, but needed an instructor for IFR, which is instrument flight rules conditions. John arrived around 8pm with his sister in law, and then Carolyn arrived. We're told in this podcast that John Jr refused to use a flight instructor even though he was supposed to have one. We go now to Episode Four. We're told that John Jr was an actor, and New York City was his set. He'd take his shirt off or do pull ups in the park because he wanted to be photographed. We're also told that John Jr had a bad temper and a short fuse. Leon Wagner, when he was a student at Brown he'd be in trouble for cutting class. Jackie had to write a letter of apology after John Jr chewed out a Professor Andy Tillett, nice guy, fascinating. People liked him, but he was impetuous and reckless. John Jr is compared to Teddy, who had a short fuse but had AIDS around him to calm him down, whereas Junior did not. He'd just simply pop his mouth off. He didn't think anything bad would happen. He kept the image of the sad little boy saluting his father's coffin. New Yorkers liked him and had the tendency to look out for him in his image. When he took a job after he finished college, he didn't act like a snot. He worked in the same cubicle that other people did, and he didn't get demanding a paparazzo says everyone liked John Jr. He believed that junior would wind up running for president. Leon Wagner says Junior had dyslexia and ADD and would not keep up with his work. He relied on Jackie to help grease the wheels for him in order to get through school. Kyle Bailey says John Jr was friendly and normal, got along with everyone and went about his life in a usual way. Linda massarella of the New York Post stories came in regularly with JFK JR and the celebrities he dated. Jackie did not like the idea of John Jr dating an actress. He became huge when he started dating celebrities, especially Madonna. There were rumors that he was flirting with Princess Diana. He was an exhibitionist. He was feeding his own ego. Leon Wagner, John Jr, had a love hate relationship with the press. He'd be photogenic, and he'd give them opportunities to make pictures. When he went out with Madonna, it was a fire storm. Did Junior's love of the limelight represent a security concern? By the time he stopped dating celebrities, he himself was a celebrity, so it was too late to dip out of the limelight. John Jr did not have Secret Service protection. He also did not hire any private security. Nor did Jackie hire private security for him. We're told he was reckless and would regularly get threats from crazy people. John starts dating Carolyn Bessette, the. Paparazzi follow them all the time. JFK Jr gives a note to a paparazzo saying to please not publish his new address. The New York Post publishes the note because Junior misspells the word address, so it becomes a way to make fun of him and say he's too good looking to be smart. Carolyn did not like the pervasive media attention and felt uncomfortable, the two of them wind up in a public fight. It's a fight that's both verbal and physical at times, and it appears that he's so distraught he cries on the sidewalk. Leon says John Jr turned on photographers when his relationship with Carolyn went Sara Doug weed believes John Jr would have been involved in politics, whether he wanted to be or not, it just would have been inevitable. We're now at episode five, which is cuckoo bonkers. A letter was sent to Joe Biden's office and was allegedly sent by John Jr, James Robertson, an investigative reporter. And the narrator, talk about a Foxtrot Bravo, India file. Biden was a senator at the time, and he gets a death threat letter in 1994 supposedly signed by John F Kennedy Jr. In my private notes, I've written how and why. Why would JFK Jr have done that and signed his name. Who does that?

Andy Tillett says the crime bill was the baby of Joe Biden. Biden has been roundly criticized for this throughout the years. Dick Morris, the political advisor to President Clinton, described the crime bill and how it had worried Liberal Democrats at the time due to mandatory sentences, they play a clip of Biden from 1993 and he sounds nothing like senile old man. It doesn't even sound like the same person Leon says. John Jr considered himself a crusader for the less fortunate. He was outraged by the idea that the people least able to defend themselves would be victimized by this bill. He worried that this would be a kind of American version of a Russian Gulag. We're told the Kennedys were a law unto themselves. Doug weed, the Kennedys could be on different sides of issues than people would expect. JFK was concerned about the power and corruption of the Federal Reserve. He was opposed to what we call crony capitalism. Kennedy just preceded the worst period of crony capitalism, and people wonder how he would react today. I don't wonder. Be horrified. James Robertson makes a FOIA request to figure out what was actually going on with this bizarre letter. There were four latent fingerprints on the letter. Some of the documents from the fox trot Bravo India are so heavily redacted. James cannot make sense of what's even there. One, Senator, Biden receives a letter in 1994 that was a death threat. Two, it was signed by JFK Jr, or someone claiming to be him. Three, Biden considers it serious enough to report it to the Foxtrot Bravo India. Four, latent fingerprints were taken. Jim Ellis, a private investigator and previous Special Investigator for the Foxtrot Bravo India. He says most of these letters are cranks. He does not believe the letter truly came from JFK, Jr, what became of the Foxtrot Bravo India investigation? Andy Tillett, if this is true, the Foxtrot Bravo India dropped the case. Why the prints are not attributed to anyone? Did the Foxtrot Bravo India ask Junior for his prints? The narrator and James assume they probably didn't, because he's a Kennedy. Leon Wagner, the Foxtrot Bravo India was convinced it was a real letter from JFK Jr, but they weren't sure what to do. Teddy calls and apologizes to the director and says he will ensure that junior behaves. Had it been anyone other than JFK Jr, the person would be prosecuted. John got away with it because of his name, his father's legacy and Teddy's intervention. Since no one was punished, the podcast speculates that it was JFK Jr. Anyone else would have been prosecuted, since no one was perhaps it really was junior, after all, and that's why the case was dropped.

What a story.

We're now at episode six, which is the last episode that I will cover in this particular episode, we hear Larry King asking if it was good to be the son of a legend, and Junior says it's complicated. The narrator tells us that John Jr was arrogant and reckless. We hear the word reckless a lot through this podcast. We're also told that he had an act first and think later mentality. Junior was accustomed to Jackie or Teddy cleaning up his messes in the mid 1980s Junior makes New York City his home, NYC was full of crime, and it seemed strange that junior would be out and about so freely, given that his father and uncle were murdered, Junior was athletic and active and didn't feel that he was vulnerable to any kind of crime attack. Leon. Says the average person would not say c'est la vie, but would want protection. Linda massarella said Jackie did not like John's running around, and she worried about him. John was devastated by the loss of his mother. Leon says Jackie was very controlling and manipulating. Linda says JFK Jr was under tremendous pressure to be a president. One day, Jackie wanted John to get a law degree in order to become a politician. Now she says that JFK senior had a law degree, but this is not true. Kennedy graduated from Harvard with a bachelor's degree in government. He enrolled at Stanford for graduate school, but didn't finish. He received some honorary degrees later on in life, but Jack was not an attorney by trade. JFK Jr was a target for criminals. He was a target of a kidnapping plot when he was 11 and living in Greece 13 years later, in 1985 he was a target again. Despite these plots, JFK Jr kept living an open, extroverted life in New York City, Leon says Junior believed the Foxtrot Bravo India had his back and would foil any plots that came up. James Robertson and the narrator, find additional Foxtrot Bravo India documents about a kidnapping plot from 1995 the kidnappers had determined that Kennedy rode a bike around New York City and did not have any bodyguards. Multiple Foxtrot Bravo India offices in multiple cities were notified. How would someone in California know about a plot to kidnap JFK Jr in New York City? It's alarming that Junior was riding around unprotected, given the family history and now he's the center of a kidnapping plot. He died only four years later. So was there a connection between this plot and his plane crash? So this is an interesting collection of stuff. We have this weird, weird story about a letter that was attributed to JFK, Jr, bold enough to sign his name, a death threat, letter that he signs his name to, and we're told that, since it was dropped and nobody was ever prosecuted, Well, shit, it had to be him, because if it had been anybody else, if it really had been some wacko that just signed his name to the letter and it wasn't actually him, well, they would have been fried for what they did. And I'm like, All right, well, not necessarily mean it could have been somebody else with some wealth and power that was trying to frame him up, and that's why it got swept under the rug. I myself am not convinced that he really did write a death threat letter to Joe Biden that just seems really absurd to me.

And we're told that he does this goofy off the wall brazen stunt, and then Ted has to call the foxtrot problem India and eat crow and say, I'll keep him in line. Nothing like this will ever happen again. But then he thinks, supposedly, if he runs around New York City shirtless and unprotected, it's all going to be okay, because these same people that I've pissed off royally will have my back and protect me. That makes no sense, unless the point of your argument is to make him sound like a total moron and or just an arrogant jerk who thinks he's owed everything in the world. It makes no sense, but we repeatedly hear arrogant, reckless, celebrity, full of himself, extroverted, putting on a show for the public, and it's similar to the same types of slanderous things that we hear about JFK senior, interesting, not coincidental.

So the podcast has laid the groundwork now, and we're about to go into a super weird if you thought that the plot about a letter to Biden was super weird, well, it's going to get weirder when you hear about the sex slave kidnapping plot in the final half of fatal voyage. Will we get any answers? Was it an accident? Was it deliberate sabotage? And if so, who sabotaged the plane? Stay tuned, and we'll find out. I will see you in the next episode.

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