Episode 91: The Philadelphia Experiment / Project Invisibility

Last summer, I recoded an episode about Phil Schneider & The Underground. In that documentary, we learn about Phil's father who was a repatriated Nazi. After he died, Phil finds a cache of top secret documents and some of them pertained to the Philadelphia Experiment and that, yes, it was real.

So is this true? Did the military succeed in making a ship invisible AND in teleporting it from Pennsylvania to Virginia?

Links:
 

https://www.buzzsprout.com/2289560/14400011

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philadelphia_Experiment

https://www.amazon.com/Philadelphia-Experiment-Invisibility-Startling-Vanished/dp/0449007464

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morris_K._Jessup

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Meredith_Allen

https://www.caltech.edu/about/news/proving-that-quantum-entanglement-is-real

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Townsend_Brown

 https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0087910/

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Transcript

Transcription by Otter.ai.  Please forgive any typos!

Sara Causey discusses the Philadelphia Experiment, also known as Project Invisibility, inspired by Phil Schneider's claims in the documentary "The Underground." She revisits episode 25, which explored Schneider's father's top-secret documents, including those about the Philadelphia Experiment. The experiment allegedly made the USS Eldridge invisible, causing crew members to experience severe psychological effects. Causey references various sources, including Wikipedia, military documents, and a 1979 book by William Elmore and Charles Berlitz, which detail the experiment and its aftermath. She questions the authenticity of the documents and the reality of the event, suggesting further investigation.

SUMMARY KEYWORDS

Philadelphia Experiment, Project Invisibility, Phil Schneider, Oscar Schneider, USS Eldridge, Carl Allen, Morris Jessup, Unified Field Theory, Thomas Townsend Brown, Navy documents, conspiracy theories, UFO sightings, Bermuda Triangle, psychological testing, anti-gravity research.

Welcome to con-sara-cy theories. Are you ready to ask questions you shouldn't and find information you're not supposed to know? Well, you're in the right place. Here is your host, Sara Causey. 

Hello, hello, and thanks for tuning in. In tonight's episode, I will be talking about the Philadelphia Experiment, slash project invisibility. I was really inspired to do this after I watched the documentary The underground about Phil Schneider, and I published the episode. It was actually episode 25 last summer, Phil Schneider and the underground. And in that episode, I speculated all of the stories of the aliens and the underground battle and Valiant Thor going to the Pentagon. Is it possible that all of that is just cuckoo, outlandish window dressing, when the real story is about Phil Schneider's repatriated Nazi father, who supposedly had a cachet of top secret documents in his house. And when this man dies, Phil and his wife go through and find some pretty mind blowing information, including documents about the Philadelphia Experiment. Sort of scratched my head and thought, what if that's the real story? At the very least, I feel like it merits further investigation. So pick out your frosty beverage of choice, and we will saddle up and take this ride. I want to actually start this episode by going back and revisiting episode 25 Phil Schneider in the underground. I'll drop a link, of course, to that episode if, for some reason, you missed it and you want to go back and check it out. But I want to play a few minutes from that episode. Instead of me rehashing something that I've already covered, I just want to go back and play an excerpt for you now, according to Schneider's ex wife, Schneider's own father had worked for NATO. Now I'm going to say, I feel like this is where some shit gets real. This is where some shit gets weird, and I think, and it's just my opinion, okay, highly editorial comment here. I feel like, even if we set aside all of the weird stuff about aliens and underground warfare, and is there this weird alien character named valiant Thor that for real existed, set all of that stuff to the side, once we start learning about this dude, Oscar Schneider. It's a bit of a holy shit moment for me. I was a little bit like when you take away all the rest of it, when you assume that valiant Thor and The aliens and all of that could just be window dressing. It seems to me like the real story here might just be this Oscar dude. So we're told that Phil Schneider's father, who was this auto Oscar Schneider, was a U boat captain in Hitler's Navy, and that he was captured by the French and turned over to the US. He was then repatriated to the US, and Schneider says that his father helped to build the USS Nautilus. We're also told that Oscar Schneider was involved in secret government projects and Black Ops. Oscar Schneider had documents that might prove that the Philadelphia Experiment was real. Again, I feel like we're getting into territory of this really could be and should be its own separate episode. I'm going to hop over to the Wikipedia page for the Philadelphia Experiment. The Philadelphia Experiment was an alleged event claimed to have been witnessed by an ex merchant mariner named Carl M Allen at the United States Navy's Philadelphia Naval Shipyard in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, sometime around October 28 1943 Allen described an experiment where the US Navy attempted to make a destroyer escort class ship, the USS Eldridge, disappear, and the bizarre results that followed. The story first surfaced in late 1955 When Allen sent a book full of handwritten annotations referring to the experiment to a US Navy research organization, and a little later, a series of letters making further claims to a UFO book writer Allen's account of the event is widely understood to be a hoax. Several different and sometimes contradictory versions of the alleged experiment have circulated over the years in paranormal literature and popular movies. The US Navy maintains that no such experiment was ever conducted, that the details of the story contradict well established facts about the USS Eldridge and that the physics the experiment is claimed to be based on are non existent. End quote, If we jump over to military.com we read witnesses claim an eerie green, blue glow surrounded. Hull of the ship as her generators spun up, and then suddenly, the Eldridge disappeared. The ship was then seen in Norfolk Naval Shipyard in Virginia, just before disappearing again and reappearing back in Philadelphia. The Legend states that classified military documents reported that the Eldridge crew were affected by the events in disturbing ways. Some went insane, others developed mysterious illness, but others were still said to have been fused together, with the ship still alive, but with limbs sealed to the metal. That'll give you nightmares. That's some event horizon shit, right there. End. Quote, yeah, I have the feeling that that's going to have to be its own separate episode. I'm I'm curious to learn more about what exactly happened there. Okay, so we're told, getting back now to Phil Schneider and Oscar Schneider, we're told that there was an autopsy on a crew member that had allegedly been in the Philadelphia Experiment. So what's going on here is that, in the documentary, we're told that, after Oscar died, Phil and the ex wife were going through the basement and found a whole bunch of papers, like things that, in actuality, he probably shouldn't have been keeping in his personal possession. So as they're going through these documents, that's when they're discovering these things that might prove that the Philadelphia Experiment was real. There's also a letter in his personal effects. This letter is to Nathan twining, who was a United States Air Force General. He was the Chief of Staff of the US Air Force from 1953 until 57 and then he was the third Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff from 1957 to 1960 and in this letter, Schneider says that J Edgar Hoover wanted all personnel involved to undergo psychological testing, and they flash these documents up on the screen. I know, in fairness to the argument, let's say they could be fake. They could be flashing up falsified documents. I get it. I'm just, I'm relaying to you what was in the documentary. There is another letter that is addressed to Edward Condon, the physicist. So Edward Condon was an American nuclear physicist, and he was at least briefly part of the Manhattan Project. This letter claims that people involved in the Philadelphia Experiment had escaped from a psych ward. There's another letter that references something called Project Blue Sky.

After hearing that, I wanted to go down the rabbit hole of the Philadelphia Experiment, I felt like there had to be more of a story there. There are only so many hours in the day, as we know, I've gone down the rabbit hole hard in terms of who killed JFK and why, who killed Dag hammarsk And why, there's a whole plethora of pop pops that occurred during the 1960s that merit further investigation, and I plan to get there, what happened to MLK, Jr, Malcolm, X, Medgar, Evers? I mean, there's an endless supply of oddities and things that are just truly fucked up. And when you look at the fingerprints of intelligence agencies, you really begin to see a pattern. In my opinion, as I always tell you, this is a labor of love. I'm doing this because I want to do it. I find it enriching, and I hope that I'm helping other people and turning their brains on that you might not live in the world that you think that you do. I pay to do this. Nobody pays me to do this. I don't have any corporate sponsors, and sometimes tracking down resources can be difficult. I have to rely a lot on the library system, and as Blanche DuBois would say, the kindness of strangers, rummage sales, used bookstores, places where I can try to find books on the cheap and some of my paperbacks, quite frankly, look like they've been road hard and put up wet, but as long as they're still readable and they're usable, and I only have $1 or two invested, it's conspiracy theory hunting on a budget. And so it is with this paperback book. Let me see what the publication date on this was, 1979 the Philadelphia Experiment project invisibility, by William Elmore in consultation with Charles Berlitz. If the Berlitz name sounds familiar to you from the language learning empire, this CharLes Berlitz is part of that family going to the back cover of the paperback copy that I have we read one day in 1943 at the Philadelphia Navy Yard, something happened suddenly. The USS Eldridge, a fully manned destroyer escort, vanished into a green fog. Within seconds, appeared in Norfolk Virginia, and then reappeared in Philadelphia for over 36 years. Officials have denied this. Have denied any experimentation to render matter invisible, have denied the reality of the Philadelphia Experiment. If so, why were all the men aboard the ship who survived discharged as mentally unfit? Did a scientific researcher on the project mean a mysterious death? Were identities hidden documents, law? Lost and amazing connections between UFO sightings and events in the Bermuda Triangle denied the Philadelphia Experiment, the first full length documented report on a chilling, unsolved mystery that's been discussed for years now, official documents and first hand stories have been revealed. Here is the truth in a report so shattering it is difficult to believe it's not fiction that's one hell of a lead in, isn't it? I couldn't have done any better than that, and I want to be honest with you, if you're planning to track this book down for a few dollars, you probably will be able to find it, especially in a cheap paperback copy, the one that I have for my personal library. I literally had to tape the front cover back on with scotch tape because of how worn out it was. But again, I only paid like, two or $3 for it, so I can't really complain too much about the condition. The pages are all there and it's readable. That's the main thing. If you're planning to track this down, I want to warn you, spoiler alert here, it's long on questions, short on answers. So even though, from the back cover, they're telling you like this is the first full length documented report, we've got this unsolved mystery. But finally, you're going to hear all of these revelations. Going to be difficult for you to believe that it's not fiction, because we're just jam packed with revelations. Well, hey, some of that is sales hype to market the book. I'm just being direct with you here, long on questions, short on answers. When we go to that first page, like the teaser page, right inside the front cover, we see cover up or uncanny truth? Are you saying that the Navy tried to make you invisible in some sort of experiment, electronic camouflage came the answer, some sort of electrical camouflage produced by pulsating energy fields. We couldn't take it. None of us, though it affected us in different ways. Some only saw double others began to laugh and stagger like they were drunk, and a few passed out. Some even claimed that they had passed into another world and had seen and talked to strange alien beings. And in some cases, the effects weren't temporary. I was told later that several had died, but as for the rest of us who survived, well, they just let us go disability. They called it, discharged as mentally unbalanced and unfit for further service. That way, if the Navy ever got questioned about it, they could just chalk it up as a story cooked up by a bunch of nuts. End quote in the first chapter, which is titled a close encounter with the incredible, we hear this peculiar story about two airmen named James Davis and Alan Hughes, and how they were at Colorado Springs in 1970 and this mysterious man came up to them at the War Memorial Monument. They don't know him. Have no connection to him. Have not ever seen him before, and he comes up to them, apropos of nothing, and starts telling them this story about the Philadelphia Experiment, and it was his quotation that's in that teaser on the very front page that they tried to use electronic camouflage. And then when some of the men died, some of them went crazy, they were discharged as mentally unfit, and then the Navy could simply say, this is a crackpot story cooked up by men that were nuts. Doesn't have anything to do with reality. We also, in several subsequent chapters, learn about this man named Morris K Jessup, and just so we have a quick, dirty, easy, tenable type of summary. I want to go to his Wikipedia page. So Morris Jessup was by education and training an astronomer, but he goes down the rabbit hole of UFOs and becomes a writer and a publisher in that arena. And he dies under weird circumstances, which kell saprees whenever we're in the realm of conspiracy theories and conspiracy theorists, that seems to be a common theme under the tab death. We read Jessup attempted to make a living writing on the subject of UFOs, but his follow up books did not sell well, and his publisher rejected several other manuscripts. In 1958 his wife left him and he traveled to New York City. His friends described him as being somewhat unstable. After returning to Florida, he was involved in a serious car accident and was slow to recover, apparently increasing his despondency. On April 20, 1959 in Dade County, Florida, jessup's car was found along a roadside with Jessup dead inside. A hose had been run from the exhaust pipe into a rear window of the. Goal, which had filled with toxic fumes when turned on. The death was ruled a suicide. Friends said he had been extremely depressed and had discussed suicide with them for several months. Jessop's death would get rolled into more conspiracy theories surrounding the Philadelphia Experiment with some believing that the circumstances of jessup's apparent suicide were mysterious the William Elmore and Charles Berlitz book, the Philadelphia Experiment project invisibility, put forward the conspiracy theory that his death was connected to his knowledge of the Philadelphia Experiment. Friends interviewed in the same book thought the bizarre letters from Carl Meredith Allen may have initiated a decline in jessup's mental state leading to his eventual suicide. End Quote, Carl Allen is another rabbit hole for us to go down, because he and his weird and I really want to underscore, like, bold type it, underline it, put it in all caps and bright red color, weird letters figure prominently throughout this book. So again, just so we have a quick and easy type of summary, I'm going to go to his Wikipedia page. Carl Meredith Allen was an American merchant mariner who claimed that during World War Two he witnessed the Philadelphia Experiment, a supposed paranormal event where the United States Navy made a ship invisible and accidentally teleported it through space. The story is widely understood to be a hoax perpetrated by Allen, something he confessed to several times over the years, then recanted then confessed to again. I'm going to butt in and say they do bring this up in the book, that there are times when he says that he's sincere and honest, there's times where he will recant, there's times where he will where, where he will recant, the recant and then go back again. So a lot of problematic strangeness with this guy. He also has multiple aliases, including Carlos Miguel Allende and Carl Meredith allenstein.

In the biography tab, we see Carl Allen. Was born on May 31 1925 in Springdale, Pennsylvania, the eldest of five children. His family described him as brilliant in school, with a fantastic mind, but also a person who never held any particular job for long and was a drifter. He was also known as a master leg puller, pulling pranks on people or to get out of work in general. So right here, we're setting the stage for even from the beginning, he had a wild imagination, and he was a prankster. In 1942 he joined the US Marine Corps, but was discharged less than a year later. Right after that, he enlisted in the United States Merchant Marine, at first serving on the SS Andrew furuseth and then many other ships until 1952 when he left service. Allen would later claim that in 1943 he witnessed an invisibility experiment carried out by the US Navy at the Philadelphia Naval Shipyard, met Albert Einstein there, and for several weeks, was schooled in physics by Einstein. During his lifetime, he would use many aliases, including Carlos Miguel Allende, senior professor and Colonel Carlos Miguel christoforo Allende. And one time he wrote to the rocket engineer furnor von Braun, Dr Carl Meredith allenstein, or Alan Steen, take your pick. He turned up in various places, including Colorado Mexico, eventually ending up in Greeley, Colorado, where he died on March 5, 1994 so just that, in and of itself, a lot going on with this Allen day fellow, or Allen, whoever the hell he really is under the tab, connection to the Philadelphia Experiment we read in late 1955 an anonymous package arrived at the US Office of Naval Research. It contained a copy of Morris K jessups book, The Case for the UFO unidentified flying objects, that was filled with handwritten notes in its margins, written with three different shades of blue ink, appearing to detail a debate among three individuals. They discussed ideas about the propulsion for flying saucers alien races, and expressed concern that Jessup was too close to discovering their technology. When Jessup was invited to the Office of Naval Research a year later and shown the annotated copy of his book, he noticed the handwriting of the annotations resembled a series of letters he received from Carl Allen, who also signed some of his letters Carlos Miguel Allende in the letters to Jessup Allen put forward a story of dangerous science based on unpublished theories by Albert Einstein, which had been put into practice at the Philadelphia Naval Shipyard in October 1943 Allen claimed to have witnessed this experiment while serving aboard the SS Andrew furesef, in Allen's account, the destroyer escort was successfully made invisible, but the ship inexplicably teleported to Norfolk Virginia for several minutes and then. Appeared in the Philadelphia yard. The ship's crew was supposed to have suffered various side effects, including insanity, intangibility and being frozen in place. When Jessop wrote back requesting more information to corroborate his story, Allen said his memory would have to be recovered and referred Jessop to what seemed to be a non existent Philadelphia newspaper article that Allen claimed covered the incident. 12 years later, Allen would say that he authored all the annotations in order to scare the hell out of Jessup. The Jessup book with Allen's scribbled commentaries gained a life of its own when the Vero Manufacturing Corporation of Garland, Texas, who did contract work for onr, kind of odd, isn't it began producing mimeograph copies of the book with Alan's annotations and Allen's letters to Jessup, first a dozen and eventually 127 copies. These copies came to be known as the Vero edition. This became the heart of many Philadelphia Experiment books, documentaries and movies to come over the years, various writers and researchers who tried to get more information from Carl Allen found his responses elusive or could not find him at all. End Quote, this is weird to me, so somebody sends an anonymous package of Morris jessups book with these different, or supposedly different styles of handwriting and different shades of ink, they send that to the Office of Naval Research, and then the onr invites Jessup to come there. That, in and of itself, is weird. If they thought that it was a hoax, if they thought that it was all a load of bunk and could easily be dismissed. Why did they invite him to go up there? And then why did the Vero Manufacturing Corporation who admittedly did contract work for the onr make mimeograph copies of this weird ass annotated version, along with Alan's weird ass letters to Jessup. I find that odd, at the very least, even if all of this is an elaborate hoax, don't you find that weird? I mean, don't they have better things to do and other things to spend taxpayer dollars on? I think there's something funky about that. It's impossible for me to adequately describe what these letters from Alan to Jessup look like. There are weird misspellings for somebody that's supposed to be a genius and studied at the feet of Albert Einstein, there's weird misspellings. There are random bits of punctuation and places where there's not any punctuation, but should be some words are capitalized for no apparent reason. Some are in all caps. Some are not. Some have been underlined the letters. It's like they're made to look like the letters of somebody who is completely off the rails. In the chapter titled investigations can be fatal, the authors talk about this man, Dr J Manson Valentine, which I don't know if that's a real name or not. Well, you know what? Let's look it up. Hold on, all right. Well, I come up with a Joseph Manson Valentine, who was supposed to have been an entomologist. They describe him in the book as being an oceanographer, zoologist, archeologist and longtime student of the Bermuda Triangle. So there you go. It sounds made up as hell, but I was like, Are they using a pseudonym? Here? Is this person actually going by the name Jay Manson Valentine? Anyway, they track this man down and say that he very well could be the last person to talk to Jessup before jessup's death. They quote him as saying, Why did Jessup kill himself? If he committed suicide, it was probably due to extreme depression. He had been approached by the Navy to continue working on the Philadelphia Experiment were similar projects, but had declined. He was worried about its dangerous ramifications. Perhaps he could have been saved. He was still alive when he was found. Perhaps he was allowed to die. End Quote, so that's a pretty heavy accusation, that Jessup was being recruited to work on the Philadelphia Experiment, or something similar, but he declines and then gets suicided a la Jeffrey tepstein, the authors reprint a form letter that they say gets sent by the Department of the Navy to anyone who requests information about the Philadelphia Experiment. I'll just read a quick paragraph for you now, the Office of Naval Research never conducted an official study of the manuscript. As for the Philadelphia Experiment itself, onr has never conducted any investigations on invisibility, either in 1943 or at any other time. Onr was established in 1946 in view of present scientific knowledge, our scientists do not believe that such an experiment could. Be possible, except in the realm of science fiction, a scientific discovery of such import, if it had in fact occurred, could hardly remain secret for such a long time. I hope this provides a satisfactory answer to your inquiry. That's the same thing that we hear about mysterious deaths if it had been whoever insert an intelligence agency a group of people, a conspiracy, whatever, if it had been that somebody would talk, we would know by now if an intelligence agency had bumped off dag hammer showed or JFK or RFK or MLK, the evidence would be overwhelming. Somebody would have talked. There would have been deathbed confessions. Somebody by now would have leaked the information. It had to just be these lone nut Kooks and pop poppers, right? Okay, the authors tracked down a man that Carl Allen day, or Carlos Allende. Carl Allen, take your pick on what you want to call him, this man named Franklin Reno who he claims was his friend, and they admit Franklin Reno was strictly a pseudonym. Apparently, they learn the real name of this person, but he only agrees to talk to them with the condition of total anonymity. And he's like hiding out in a house somewhere, and he keeps looking out the blinds every five minutes because he's paranoid. We got that going for us. He brings up Einstein's Unified Field Theory and what he thinks happened, what he recalls having happened in the Philadelphia Experiment. This is a complicated web, and I am certainly assuredly not going to sit here and tell you that I understand all of these difficult concepts of physics and quantum physics, just so we have a general idea. And I really want to emphasize general idea. I went to chat GPT. I was looking around online, like Encyclopedia Britannica, Wikipedia. I'm like, I need something simple that I can read over the air, almost like explain it to me like I'm a five year old. So I went to chat GPT and asked, What was Einstein's Unified Field Theory? Here's what it responds. Einstein's Unified Field Theory was an ambitious attempt to unify the fundamental forces of physics into a single theoretical framework. Primarily, Einstein sought to merge general relativity, which describes the force of gravity and the curvature of space time, with electromagnetism, the force governing electric and magnetic fields. Einstein's quest for a unified field theory was driven by the idea that all of nature's fundamental forces could be described by a single set of equations. General relativity, published in 1915 successfully explained gravity as the warping of space time by mass and energy. However, it did not account for electromagnetism, which was well described by Maxwell's equations in the 19th century, the key concepts were general relativity describes gravity as the curvature of space time caused by mass and energy. Electromagnetism, described by Maxwell's equations, which unify electric and magnetic fields. Field Theory A theoretical framework where fields, rather than particles, are the fundamental entities of the universe. Einstein's approach involved extending the geometrical framework of general relativity to include electromagnetic fields. He sought mathematical structures that could represent both gravitational and electromagnetic fields within the same theory. Some of the key methods he explored included higher dimensional theories adding extra dimensions to space time in hopes of naturally incorporating electromagnetism into the geometry of the universe, extending, excuse me, non symmetric metrics, extending the metric tensor to non symmetric forms that might encompass both gravitational and Electromagnetic fields. Despite his efforts, Einstein's Unified Field Theory faced several significant challenges, lack of experimental evidence, quantum mechanics and complex mathematics. Einstein worked on his Unified Field Theory until his death in 1955 but he never succeeded in creating a complete and accepted theory. Despite this, his efforts laid important groundwork for future theoretical physics, modern approaches to unification, such as string theory and attempts to formulate a theory of everything, owe much to Einstein's pioneering ideas and methods. End Quote, so I'm glad that we got to this last part, because one of the assertions of the various people quoted in this paperback book is that actually Einstein's unified field theory did become completed. It did become accepted. It just wasn't released to the public as such. Hence we have the Philadelphia Experiment slash project invisibility. Right? I'm thinking of the notion that today's science fiction is tomorrow's science fact, that what we once thought was impossible could become quite possible in the future. Also think about quantum entanglement and how Einstein famously called quantum entanglement, spooky action at a distance, but yet, in the future, quantum entanglement was shown to be real, not even under a microscope. But there have been experiments showing quantum entanglement real to the naked eye. So I think it's important before we automatically go, Well, look, Einstein said his theory wasn't completed. It sounds really big, really difficult to understand. That doesn't necessarily mean that it's false. The authors also devote a chapter to Thomas Townsend Brown. I'm going to go to Wikipedia now. Thomas Townsend Brown was an American inventor whose research into odd electrical effects led him to believe he had discovered a type of anti gravity caused by strong electric fields, instead of being an anti gravity force, what brown observed has generally been attributed to electro hydrodynamics, the movement of charged particles that transfer their momentum to surrounding neutral particles in the air, also called ionic drift or ionic wind. For most of Brown's life, he attempted to develop devices based on his ideas, trying to promote them for use by industry and the military. Brown's research influenced some amateur experimenters who build ionic propulsion lifters powered by high voltage. There are still claims that brown discovered anti gravity, an idea popular with the UFO community, and spawning many conspiracy theories. Under the tab anti gravity research, we find in 1921 while experimenting in the lab his parents had set up for him while he was still in high school, brown discovered an unusual effect while experimenting with a Coolidge tube, a type of X ray vacuum tube with two asymmetrical electrodes, placing it on a balanced scale with the tube's positive electrode facing up, the tube's mass seemed to decrease when the power was on, when the tube's electrode was facing down, the tube's mass seemed To increase. Brown was convinced that he had managed to influence gravity electrically at Cal Tech in 1923 brown tried to convince his instructors about his theories by inviting them to his home laboratory, but they showed little interest. He also invited the press and the May 26 1924 edition Los Angeles evening Express ran a story on brown. Title claims gravity is a push, not a pull. After quitting Cal Tech, brown studied one year at Denison University, where he claimed that he did a series of experiments with a professor of astronomy, Paul Alfred Bielefeld, although the present day Denison University claims they have no record of such experiments being carried out, or of any association between Brown and Bielefeld, working in his home lab, brown developed an electrical device he called a gravitator, consisting of a block of insulating or dielectric material with electrodes at either end. He received a British patent for it in 19 in November of 1928 in demonstrations, Brown would mount the unit as a pendulum and apply electrical power, causing the unit to move in one direction. In 1929 brown published how I control gravitation in science and invention, claiming these devices produced a mysterious force that interacted with the pull of gravity, he envisioned a future where, if his device could be scaled up, multi impulse gravitators weighing hundreds of tons may propel the ocean liners of the future or even fantastic space cars to Mars. End quote. Again, you have to make of that what you will just for me, in thinking as a skeptic, a devil's advocate, a doubting Thomas, this idea of, well, we don't have any records that he did these experiments. We don't have any records that there was any association between Brown and Beal felt. So if they really accomplished something, do you think that John and Jane Q Public are going to be allowed to know about it? Do you think they're just going to open up the doors to us and say, Well, yes, they did discover anti gravity. They did discover these force fields that could propel a car to Mars. No, they're going to tell us that towards the end of their chapter on Townsend, brown Moore and Berlitz write, this crystallizes the question indirectly posed by this entire chapter. Why indeed has Townsend Brown's promising life work gone virtually unnoticed for these past three decades? Even today, Brown is still of the opinion that further research into the Bielefeld brown effect could lead to a sensational breakthrough in space propulsion methods, not to mention the more domestic variety. If. Appropriately funded could be made available, granted, research is expensive, but Is money the real reason for the apparent lack of interest, or could it be possible that the long shadow of a more than 30 year old ship experiment has succeeded in casting its pall over his efforts, perhaps even to the extent of arranging for the convenient demise of one of his most financially influential supporters, or perhaps as Brown himself suggests the human race is not yet ready to accept such a revolutionary scientific concept. End quote. Or it may be, you know, point counterpoint, it may be that the intelligence agencies are not ready for such a thing. Remember, DARPA had access to the internet before John and Jane Q Public ever even knew such a thing existed. They're going to use the technology first. They're going to prime the pump. They're going to do their predictive programming before any of those things are released to the public. At the end of the book, in the chapter the circle closes, the authors write, The Mystery of the Philadelphia Experiment has not yet been clarified, and its eventual answer may lie deep within the files of the Department of the Navy, perhaps, as the Navy has so insistently contended, the entire incident is a legend and never took place. But then, considering the large amount of evidence that has been collected through the years, if the Philadelphia Experiment never happened as described, what actually did happen in a high security area of the Philadelphia Navy Yard in October 1943 end quote. Will we ever know a firm answer to that question? We were told in the underground that Phil Schneider's repatriated Nazi father had top secret documents that pertained to the Philadelphia Experiment and that, yes, the Philadelphia Experiment was real. There was kind of a goofy movie that was made back in, I think it was 1984 about the Philadelphia Experiment. I was able to find it on YouTube for free. Poke around online. If you're interested in checking it out, you should be able to find it free of charge on at least one of the streaming services, and it's just called the Philadelphia Experiment. It's your typical cheesy 1980s sci fi movie. Looks more like a made for TV film and something that would have gone out to the theaters. The graphics and the special effects are terribly dated by today's standards. I sat and watched it one Saturday afternoon when the weather was really rotten and we didn't have anything else going on. And I've definitely seen worse films, that's for sure. I've seen better, but I've definitely seen worse. The general plot of the film is that two of the officers that are involved in the Philadelphia Experiment go through a wormhole in time, like the time space continuum has a rip in it because of this Philadelphia Experiment, and they get propelled all the way from 1943 to 1984 so they're walking around like Stranger in a Strange Land, and it's like a sci fi fish out of water type story. They get to 1984 America, and they're looking around, and they see video arcades and television, and they're like, What the what? So there are a lot of these moments. Oh, and they also see some kind of early to mid 1980s punk rocker looking people with the spiked hair and fish nets, and they're like, what has happened? There are a few funny moments in it, but the idea is that these men have actually been pushed forward in time. One of them is able to make his way back to 1943 so then the one that's left has to figure out his way back so that he can shut the experiment down and everybody can get rearranged to the time that they're supposed to be in in the plot of that film, The general idea is that the ship needs to be made invisible, because then it won't be detectable by enemy radar. So it starts out not with the idea that the ship is going to teleport from one place to another, or that there's going to be any kind of human experimentation, per se, but it's just the idea of rendering the ship invisible to radar so that they will be able to strike the enemy without the enemy having any advance notice. The enemy won't be able to see them at all. They'll just be able to come in strike and then vanish just as fast. However, the experiment doesn't go the way that they intended it to. I think the final question there in the paperback book, the Philadelphia Experiment is a pretty good one. If the whole concept of a ship disappearing, teleporting to another location for a few minutes, and then coming back and the people on board being rendered insane, some of them saying they had communication with entities from. Some other planet, if that's all bunk and it never happened, then what actually did happen in the Philadelphia Navy Yard in October 43 or was the whole darn thing made up? Has somebody just cooked up an elaborate hoax? What do you think? Do you think the Philadelphia Experiment was real? Do you think it's an elaborate hoax? Do you think maybe some of the details are correct, but not all of them? Do you think Phil Schneider's repatriated Nazi dad actually had authentic top secret documents in his possession detailing the reality of the Philadelphia Experiment, or was Phil pulling an elaborate hoax on us? Maybe those documents are all fake, and he was making it up to try to get publicity. What do you think? Stay a little bit crazy, and I will see you in the next episode.

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